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Oct 13, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by tfaz1
But we (rumor-heads) are the few, and PC marketing no longer seems to focus on speed. And I believe that Apple is slowly turing more heads out there.
You're kidding, right?
Unfortunately, most people are NOT computer savvy and when they see an Apple Mac at 1GHz and a PC at 2.5GHz and two thirds the price, which do you think they will pick?
It's the same reason people will pick up a Gamecube over an Xbox - They don't take time to find out what comes with either, they just pick the cheapest. Nemo: "Well it does the same thing, dunnit?"
Originally posted by Spike Spiegel
all of the mac users i know are casual to hardcore gamers. to say that the mac gaming community is a minority worth ignoring is not true. also, ALL of the mac users i know are more tech saavy than any of the PC users i know, who only use the internet, mail, and counter strike. In my experience, mac users are more apt to tinker with their machines(RAM,hard drives, video cards etc.) I think apple needs to re-evaluate its priorities and put performance before style.
No offense, Spike, but that is a joke. You simply can't configure your hardware in a mac as much as you can in a PC. I know people who are hardcore PC "tinkerers", who barely touch their mac (with regards to messing with the hardware), because there's simply nothing interesting to do with it, except maybe upgrade it.
Can you buy a 5 fan aluminium case for a mac? No.
Can you buy cooling systems, fan regulators and lights? No.
Can you buy wrapped IDE cables and cut a hole in the side of your mac to show off everything inside? No.
Do you have different types of hardware manufacturers, competing for your money? Well yes, but not as much as PC users.
The very market Apple has always played for and still plays for today, to some extent, is people who are computer illiterate. Nearly all of their advertising campaigns say: "Macs are easier to use that PCs." Thereby trying to attract those who can't use PCs, or at least, find them difficult to use.
Mac users are the most disillusioned people that i've ever seen. You guys lie and lie and lie to yourselves time and again, just to make yourselves feel better about buying a Mac.
In general, if you want a computer for gaming, you DO NOT buy a Mac, unless you're very stupid. I'd say about one tenth of the games that come out on PC, also get released on Macs, and even when they do, it's a few months to a year after the PC version is released. Granted, Apple is doing an amazing job of getting more games developers to release OSX version of their games, but still, most of the time Mac users have to wait for the game to be release after the PC version. Although, basically all of the best games do eventually get released on Macs. The words "Mac Gamer" is an oxymoron and the words "Hardcore Mac Gamer" is just a myth.
A Mac is a great computer, so stop bull****ting yourselves about all of the things you think it can do and just accept that Macs are still more stylish and more stable than PCs and have, in my opinion and i'm sure yours, a much better looking and interesting to use OS. PCs are slowly catching up to Macs in that department, especially with regards to stability and if you really want a stylish computer, it's easy to find as long as you have someone that can build it. I'd personally, rather have a well build, aluminium case (NOT Lian Li cr@p) cased computer than a white, plastic Mac that anyone can buy.
It's been proven that more intelligent and richer people buy Macs. And that is the most moronic thing i've ever heard. OF COURSE the people who buy macs are, in general, going to have more money and be more intelligent, for the simple fact that Macs are far more expensive than PCs. That's like saying:
"People that buy Mercedes cars are more intelligent and richer than people who buy Skodas."
Macs are more expensive, therefore you need more money to buy them, - the people who buy them have more money because they have better jobs and they have those better jobs because they have college degrees or a better education. GET IT?
Considering that statement says Mac users are more intelligent than PC users, Mac users sure do buy into a lot of stupid, ************, sensationalized advertising.
I believe that Apple WAS turning heads, but with the advent of the 3GHz Intel CPU, i hope Apple will finally start to realize that they need to do something, and fast, but i don't think they will.
Now don't get me wrong, i love Macs. What i HATE is Mac users who continue to lie about what Macs can do, what people who use Macs are like and spout crap like: "Mac users are sooo much better than PC users!". Just grow up!
And the sadness of it all is that, in my experience, PC users don't really give a crap about Mac users, but Mac users continue to insult PC users at every chance they get. It's childish.
It's Apples fault. If they can't run their company properly, they can't expect anyone else to do it for them.
Now when are the fricking new Macs going to be released?
But we (rumor-heads) are the few, and PC marketing no longer seems to focus on speed. And I believe that Apple is slowly turing more heads out there.
You're kidding, right?
Unfortunately, most people are NOT computer savvy and when they see an Apple Mac at 1GHz and a PC at 2.5GHz and two thirds the price, which do you think they will pick?
It's the same reason people will pick up a Gamecube over an Xbox - They don't take time to find out what comes with either, they just pick the cheapest. Nemo: "Well it does the same thing, dunnit?"
Originally posted by Spike Spiegel
all of the mac users i know are casual to hardcore gamers. to say that the mac gaming community is a minority worth ignoring is not true. also, ALL of the mac users i know are more tech saavy than any of the PC users i know, who only use the internet, mail, and counter strike. In my experience, mac users are more apt to tinker with their machines(RAM,hard drives, video cards etc.) I think apple needs to re-evaluate its priorities and put performance before style.
No offense, Spike, but that is a joke. You simply can't configure your hardware in a mac as much as you can in a PC. I know people who are hardcore PC "tinkerers", who barely touch their mac (with regards to messing with the hardware), because there's simply nothing interesting to do with it, except maybe upgrade it.
Can you buy a 5 fan aluminium case for a mac? No.
Can you buy cooling systems, fan regulators and lights? No.
Can you buy wrapped IDE cables and cut a hole in the side of your mac to show off everything inside? No.
Do you have different types of hardware manufacturers, competing for your money? Well yes, but not as much as PC users.
The very market Apple has always played for and still plays for today, to some extent, is people who are computer illiterate. Nearly all of their advertising campaigns say: "Macs are easier to use that PCs." Thereby trying to attract those who can't use PCs, or at least, find them difficult to use.
Mac users are the most disillusioned people that i've ever seen. You guys lie and lie and lie to yourselves time and again, just to make yourselves feel better about buying a Mac.
In general, if you want a computer for gaming, you DO NOT buy a Mac, unless you're very stupid. I'd say about one tenth of the games that come out on PC, also get released on Macs, and even when they do, it's a few months to a year after the PC version is released. Granted, Apple is doing an amazing job of getting more games developers to release OSX version of their games, but still, most of the time Mac users have to wait for the game to be release after the PC version. Although, basically all of the best games do eventually get released on Macs. The words "Mac Gamer" is an oxymoron and the words "Hardcore Mac Gamer" is just a myth.
A Mac is a great computer, so stop bull****ting yourselves about all of the things you think it can do and just accept that Macs are still more stylish and more stable than PCs and have, in my opinion and i'm sure yours, a much better looking and interesting to use OS. PCs are slowly catching up to Macs in that department, especially with regards to stability and if you really want a stylish computer, it's easy to find as long as you have someone that can build it. I'd personally, rather have a well build, aluminium case (NOT Lian Li cr@p) cased computer than a white, plastic Mac that anyone can buy.
It's been proven that more intelligent and richer people buy Macs. And that is the most moronic thing i've ever heard. OF COURSE the people who buy macs are, in general, going to have more money and be more intelligent, for the simple fact that Macs are far more expensive than PCs. That's like saying:
"People that buy Mercedes cars are more intelligent and richer than people who buy Skodas."
Macs are more expensive, therefore you need more money to buy them, - the people who buy them have more money because they have better jobs and they have those better jobs because they have college degrees or a better education. GET IT?
Considering that statement says Mac users are more intelligent than PC users, Mac users sure do buy into a lot of stupid, ************, sensationalized advertising.
I believe that Apple WAS turning heads, but with the advent of the 3GHz Intel CPU, i hope Apple will finally start to realize that they need to do something, and fast, but i don't think they will.
Now don't get me wrong, i love Macs. What i HATE is Mac users who continue to lie about what Macs can do, what people who use Macs are like and spout crap like: "Mac users are sooo much better than PC users!". Just grow up!
And the sadness of it all is that, in my experience, PC users don't really give a crap about Mac users, but Mac users continue to insult PC users at every chance they get. It's childish.
It's Apples fault. If they can't run their company properly, they can't expect anyone else to do it for them.
Now when are the fricking new Macs going to be released?
boncellis
Jul 22, 08:37 PM
I agree that this would be cool, but what would make it even better is enhanced iSync or other capability for third parties to take advantage and make content available. I suppose the iTMS could handle it, but the user should be able to load whatever he or she wants on it, I would think.
pdqgp
Apr 11, 07:02 PM
Haha, people still actually buy software from Adobe. The Internet is your friend people.
;) I agree that it's crazy to pay full price. Everyone has to know someone in college or who can at least get an educational discount. I mean of several hundred bucks, make a friend. Otherwise, yes, simply 5-10 minutes on the net can yield you the full CS Suite and all the major plug ins. I think the total available in that time is about $3,500.
;) I agree that it's crazy to pay full price. Everyone has to know someone in college or who can at least get an educational discount. I mean of several hundred bucks, make a friend. Otherwise, yes, simply 5-10 minutes on the net can yield you the full CS Suite and all the major plug ins. I think the total available in that time is about $3,500.
cvaldes
Apr 17, 10:29 AM
The board that oversees what the top 3 executives do at Apple knows more than you about production issues of MILLIONS of hi-tech devices.
Anybody familiar with production and distribution issues knows that despite excellent planning there may be issues during production that cannot be forecast.
Selling and shipping MILLIONS in a few weeks is a exactly fiasco for whom?
There are a lot of haters on this site. And I mean a LOT.
Plus there are a few people who have zero connection with reality. The type of people who ignore COGS, have no understanding of the economics of consumer electronics manufacturing and marketing, and disregard the basic laws of Newtonian physics. Basically, people who live in an effing dreamworld based on an totally domestic American worldview largely based on sci-fi movies and pop culture, with no real world experience as a contributor to a global economy.
Anybody familiar with production and distribution issues knows that despite excellent planning there may be issues during production that cannot be forecast.
Selling and shipping MILLIONS in a few weeks is a exactly fiasco for whom?
There are a lot of haters on this site. And I mean a LOT.
Plus there are a few people who have zero connection with reality. The type of people who ignore COGS, have no understanding of the economics of consumer electronics manufacturing and marketing, and disregard the basic laws of Newtonian physics. Basically, people who live in an effing dreamworld based on an totally domestic American worldview largely based on sci-fi movies and pop culture, with no real world experience as a contributor to a global economy.
notjustjay
Apr 14, 09:52 AM
I hope what this shows the PC makers is that it's not just a race to the bottom as far as price is concerned, but that people are willing to pay more for a device if it's built well and does a good job.
Stop worrying about shaving that extra dollar off the price and providing the rock-bottom rickety low-cost PC that will fall apart in a few months; instead, go ahead and invest in computers with longer battery life, better build quality, and other useful features -- consumers are willing to pay for it.
Stop worrying about shaving that extra dollar off the price and providing the rock-bottom rickety low-cost PC that will fall apart in a few months; instead, go ahead and invest in computers with longer battery life, better build quality, and other useful features -- consumers are willing to pay for it.
Dr Kevorkian94
May 4, 10:07 PM
No, thanks. I don't wanna have to wear these stupid-looking glasses every time I need to use the iPad and look like a total dork. :mad:
Image (http://cl.ly/6VL2/img.jpg)
There using a GLASSES-LESS 3D screen that is y it is significant, the red/blue glasses will work with any screen if the image is in that format, that is y it works in any tv.
Image (http://cl.ly/6VL2/img.jpg)
There using a GLASSES-LESS 3D screen that is y it is significant, the red/blue glasses will work with any screen if the image is in that format, that is y it works in any tv.
dapodaca
Aug 30, 09:04 AM
I'm sure Ultimate will be the one that gets pirated first. :D
Yes, some evil genius hacker will introduce something like Windows Vista Ultimate Cracked Edition(tm) complete with secret malware backdoor for use in wielding mighty botnets or other sins of the Internets seedy side! :D :eek:
Yes, some evil genius hacker will introduce something like Windows Vista Ultimate Cracked Edition(tm) complete with secret malware backdoor for use in wielding mighty botnets or other sins of the Internets seedy side! :D :eek:
NXTMIKE
Apr 11, 05:48 PM
Well this is interesting...
On Adobe's website, it has announced the date of termination for CS Live Services, being April 12 2012. Maybe this will coincide with the date of the CS6 launch?
On Adobe's website, it has announced the date of termination for CS Live Services, being April 12 2012. Maybe this will coincide with the date of the CS6 launch?
tekmoe
Mar 11, 03:23 PM
I just bought a Macbook Pro literally 5 minutes ago. I've been waiting for months and I finally gave up. After the order was completed, I thought I'd check macrumors just for laughs and the first thing I saw was, "new macbook pros tomorrow?" :(
Patience is a virtue, my friend.
Patience is a virtue, my friend.
daceymathers
Apr 28, 11:42 PM
Logic is the perfect comparison. Audio guys had the exact same reaction when Logic 8 and 9 first appeared - it seemed to look more like GB so they assumed it was a toy with features stripped out. In fact, it removed nothing and added quite a few features valuable to pros (and in later versions fixed a LOT of bugs). What's the old clich� about judging a book by its cover?
Logic Pro is a hybrid 32 / 64 bit digital audio workstation and MIDI sequencer software application for the Mac OS X platform.Logic 8 has new processing plug-in (Delay Designer), Apple included features such as Quick Swipe Comping, similar to Soundtrack Pro 2, and multi-take management.
Logic Pro is a hybrid 32 / 64 bit digital audio workstation and MIDI sequencer software application for the Mac OS X platform.Logic 8 has new processing plug-in (Delay Designer), Apple included features such as Quick Swipe Comping, similar to Soundtrack Pro 2, and multi-take management.
cav23j
Mar 25, 12:54 PM
waits for Verizon to get the exclusive on next update 4.4
CANEHDN
Mar 21, 01:35 PM
This is awesome. I love the note they gave with the iPad.
Retrograffica
Jan 11, 02:06 PM
After reading this article (http://gizmodo.com/343246/what-to-expect-at-macworld-2008-and-why-we-think-it-will-bigger-than-usual) I think that it's entirely possible that Apple are altering their branding. Also the lack of an Apple logo could be explained by the fact that everyone at the expo would recognise it as them anyway and it adds to the air of secrecy and mystery that they love to use in their marketing.
ChrisA
Apr 2, 02:59 AM
An "Image Sensor" is not a camera. The sensor is part of a camera. In addition to a sensor one needs to add at least a lens, some buffer memory and a controller. Sony makes image sensors for many, other camera makers.
8MP is way to many pixels for a cell phone camera. The only reason to have so many is for marketing purposes because consumers seem to think (wrongly) that more is better. What really limits sharpness of a cell phone camera is the physical size of the lens. If the lens projects a blurred image onto the focal plane the best sensors will simply make a very good recording of the blurred image.
8MP is way to many pixels for a cell phone camera. The only reason to have so many is for marketing purposes because consumers seem to think (wrongly) that more is better. What really limits sharpness of a cell phone camera is the physical size of the lens. If the lens projects a blurred image onto the focal plane the best sensors will simply make a very good recording of the blurred image.
this is funah
Aug 3, 11:17 PM
read this somewhere- not sure if it has been posted here yet. Seems like the MBP at the end of the banner has a different (thinner) speaker design than both the current MBP 15' & 17'
Here are some images of the banner, MBP 15 & 17
it's just the refraction from the glass at that angle...
there are some straight-on photos (http://flickr.com/photos/66488342@N00/206009315/in/set-72157594223273881/) that confirm it's the same.
apple isnt going to give away anything with this banner that can be seen by the general public.
Here are some images of the banner, MBP 15 & 17
it's just the refraction from the glass at that angle...
there are some straight-on photos (http://flickr.com/photos/66488342@N00/206009315/in/set-72157594223273881/) that confirm it's the same.
apple isnt going to give away anything with this banner that can be seen by the general public.
DewGuy1999
Oct 26, 08:51 AM
oh really? do you know when they're released?
I don't know about the UK, but I believe that they're available now in the US.
I don't know about the UK, but I believe that they're available now in the US.
daneoni
Aug 24, 03:38 PM
Looks like im defo affected. Sigh....there is nothing wrong with my battery it works fine and has good recharge cycles. Looks like it's time to call Apple BUT might wait till waaay down the line when majority have done theirs
kmac12
Nov 12, 03:53 PM
I think if you asked most of the population, the vast majority would find it 100% reasonable and appropriate that any retail company, in any business sector, decides what they will or won't sell in their store - be it WalMart, The Gap, Starbucks, or your local corner grocery store. Apples retail store is just that... a retail store --- and the norms of business retail don't go away, to be replaced by a magical la-la land where people get to do whatever they want.
In your case though, companies have alternatives to get their product out. The App store is virtually a monopoly. So, a company could spend months developing an app and have it rejected for any reason. Then, they would have no alternative to make the development cost back.
We were affected by the Three20 project rejections also. It cause a delay for us which in turn caused a delay to a client. They weren't too happy about it. That said, we tell all clients that we do not control Apple's process and the risk of delays is there.
It is frustrating and hopefully they make a change soon to alleviate some of these problems.
In your case though, companies have alternatives to get their product out. The App store is virtually a monopoly. So, a company could spend months developing an app and have it rejected for any reason. Then, they would have no alternative to make the development cost back.
We were affected by the Three20 project rejections also. It cause a delay for us which in turn caused a delay to a client. They weren't too happy about it. That said, we tell all clients that we do not control Apple's process and the risk of delays is there.
It is frustrating and hopefully they make a change soon to alleviate some of these problems.
cav23j
Mar 25, 12:54 PM
waits for Verizon to get the exclusive on next update 4.4
iMikeT
Aug 8, 04:11 AM
I can't wait until I can afford to get a Mac Pro.
hondaboy945
Sep 22, 02:11 PM
Yeah, all this "Boycott Wal-Mart" talk rocks. I work for Target, so come on in guys and gals!
I totally agree. Target is sooo much better than WM. I would rather pay the extra .50 or $1 more to go to Target. Cleaner stores, nicer people, and they don't have that funny smell that WM has. And they don't want to price everyone out of business, except maybe WM. That would be great.
I totally agree. Target is sooo much better than WM. I would rather pay the extra .50 or $1 more to go to Target. Cleaner stores, nicer people, and they don't have that funny smell that WM has. And they don't want to price everyone out of business, except maybe WM. That would be great.
thermodynamic
Apr 11, 06:40 PM
Hmmm, so I wonder what will the pricing be for those that don't jump to 5.5? Will 5 to 6 be priced the same as 5.5 to 6? What will be cheaper?
I looked at going from Master Collection CS 4 to CS 5.5, especially as I have a spare Mac license that I'd rather upgrade... that cost is $949.
O U C H.
It's too early to say what CS5->CS6 will be; it could be the same $550 or it could be $950.
Future upgrades might just be the Web Premium package and sticking with the standard CS5 releases for the non-essential apps.
But, as they sell less, they'll just raise the prices again. As if that will magically increase market share in return... :rolleyes:
I looked at going from Master Collection CS 4 to CS 5.5, especially as I have a spare Mac license that I'd rather upgrade... that cost is $949.
O U C H.
It's too early to say what CS5->CS6 will be; it could be the same $550 or it could be $950.
Future upgrades might just be the Web Premium package and sticking with the standard CS5 releases for the non-essential apps.
But, as they sell less, they'll just raise the prices again. As if that will magically increase market share in return... :rolleyes:
learn
Jan 10, 01:56 PM
Imagine this, if you will. The Beatles 8 gigabyte (or larger) iPod complete with the entire Beatles library. 3.5" touch screen in a yellow case. Is Valentine's Day far away?
vaderhater245
Oct 11, 10:25 PM
Work on the left. Play on the right.
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